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MH-17 - Sources for Alternative Accounts of the Crash

THERE ARE FOUR PARTS TO THIS:

(1) A LIST OF SITES - MOST OF WHICH I HAVE LOOKED AT

(2) A VERY THOUGHTFUL POST FROM TWITLONGER
I COULD NOT TRACE AGAIN (THAT IS I CANNOT GIVE A LOCATION SITE)


(3) A TRANSCRIPT OF TWITTER COMMENTS BY CARLOS
A SPANISH AIR TRAFFIC CONTROLLER SAID TO BE IN THE CONTROL TOWER IN UKRAINE WHEN THE PLANE WENT DOWN. (COPIES OF ALL INFO IN THE CONTROL TOWER WERE TAKEN BY THE UKRAINIAN OFFICIALS AND HAVE NOT BEEN RELEASED.)

(4) SOME OTHER POSTS WHICH ARE NOT (TO ME) OF GREAT VALUE


You can download this photo as a PDF in good resolution. This is necessary, because that will allow you understand what I am describing here. The facts speak clear and loud and are beyond the realm of speculation: The cockpit shows traces of shelling! You can see the entry and exit holes. The edge of a portion of the holes is bent inwards. These are the smaller holes, round and clean, showing the entry points most likely that of a 30 millimeter caliber projectile. (http://www.globalresearch.ca/german-pilot-speaks-out-shocking-analysis-of-the-shooting-down-of-malaysian-mh17/5394111)




(1) A LIST OF SITES
- MOST OF WHICH I HAVE LOOKED AT

17.07 Bombshell! Proof That Malaysia Flight MH17 Was Diverted Over Ukraine War Zone!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXQ_8_KUT3w
DAHBOO77
(This serves as absolute proof that Malaysia Flight MH17 was intentionally flown into Hostile Air Space!
So perhaps before coming to "certain" conclusion about the involvement of this rebel or that, the key questions one should ask before casting blame, is why did the pilot divert from his usual flight plan, why did he fly above restricted airspace, and just what, if any instructions, did Kiev air control give the pilot in the minutes before the tragic explosion?)

17.07 Kiev deployed powerful anti-air systems to E. Ukraine ahead of the Malaysian plane crash
http://rt.com/news/173636-buk-malaysian-plane-crash/

17.07 Malaysia Flight MH17: What The MSM Isn't Telling You!
DAHBOO77
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ic_mBPDh3Dg

17.07 BUSTED! Ukraine Caught Trying to 'Frame Russia' for Shooting Down Malaysia Flight MH17!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28MrASx-RiM

17.07 777 Shoot Down Shows CHAFF Deployment; Fighter Jet Involved
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUltrf8n_vA

17.07 Malaysian Plane Crash Video Shows Ground Explosion, Not Missile Explosion In Air!
DAHBOO77
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fytpEF6-EQ

18.07 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZU1qob7UnsQ
The Real Reason "Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17" Was 'Shot Down' Over Ukraine!
DAHBOO77

18.07 Who Was Behind The Downing of Malaysian Airlines MH17? Official statement of Russia’s Defense Ministry
http://www.globalresearch.ca/mh-17-crash-in-ukraine-official-statement-from-russian-defense-ministry/5392000

18.07 The Final Moments Of Flight MH-17: The Russian Side Of The Story
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-18/final-moments-flight-mh-17-russian-side-story

18.07 FINAL – Part I: Emerging Evidence Points to #MH17 Being a Ukrainian False Flag
http://slavyangrad.org/2014/07/18/emerging-evidence-points-to-mh17-being-a-ukrainian-false-flag/

18.07 FINAL – Part II: Evidence Continues to Emerge #MH17 Is a False Flag Operation
http://slavyangrad.org/2014/07/18/breaking-part-ii-evidence-continues-to-emerge-mh17-is-a-false-flag-operation/

18.07 FINAL – Spanish Air Controller @ Kiev Borispol Airport: Ukraine Military Shot Down Boeing #MH17
http://slavyangrad.org/2014/07/18/spanish-air-controller-kiev-borispol-airport-ukraine-military-shot-down-boeing-mh17/

20.07 The #MH17 Investigation and BUK 312
http://slavyangrad.org/2014/07/20/the-mh17-investigation-and-buk-312/

20.07 BOOM! Kiev Caught Plotting Crash of Malaysia Flight MH17 , Before It Happened!
DAHBOO77
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-c__Fm5liCo

20.07 Kiev Deployed Powerful Anti-air Systems to East Ukraine ahead of the Malaysian Plane Crash
http://www.globalresearch.ca/kiev-deployed-powerful-anti-air-systems-to-east-ukraine-ahead-of-the-malaysian-plane-crash/5392280

20.07 Kiev will have to answer many questions’ as UN urges intl MH17 crash probe – Moscow
http://rt.com/news/174544-un-probe-malaysia-plane/

20.07 Strewn and Fake Wreckage Proven in MH17 Crash Hoax
http://nodisinfo.com/strewn-fake-wreckage-proven-mh17-crash-hoax/

20.07 What Happened to Malaysian Airlines MH17? Washington’s Propaganda Machine in High Gear
http://www.globalresearch.ca/washingtons-propaganda-machine-in-high-gear-what-happened-to-malaysian-airline-mh17/5392304

21.07 MH17 Show & Tell: It's the West's Turn
http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com.au/2014/07/mh17-show-tell-its-wests-turn.html

21.07 Russia offers potential evidence of Ukrainian role in MH17 tragedy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_79NQbjHTI
Russia is hitting back at allegations by the West that Eastern Ukrainian militias are responsible for the downing of Malaysian Airlines flight MH17. In a televised presentation Monday, Russian defense officials offered evidence of Ukrainian "BUK" missiles systems in the region where the plane was downed. Also presented was radar data they believe shows a Ukrainian jet fighter closely tailing MH17 before it crashed near Donetsk. RT's Marina Kosareva has more details on the new information provided by the Russian military.

21.07 The MH17 investigation and Buk 312
http://humanrightsinvestigations.org/2014/07/21/the-mh17-investigation-and-buk-312/
So, it appears that at least one of the buks, which the SBU claim belongs to Russia, is actually Ukrainian.

22.07 The Mystery of a Ukrainian Army ‘Defector’
http://consortiumnews.com/2014/07/22/the-mystery-of-a-ukrainian-army-defector/

22.07 The Russian Military Speaks About Malaysian Airlines Boeing #MH17, July 21, 2014
http://slavyangrad.org/2014/07/22/the-russian-military-speaks-about-malaysian-airlines-boeing-mh17/

23.07 The most pathetic case of backpedaling I have seen in my life
http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.com.au/2014/07/the-most-pathetic-case-of-backpedaling.html

24.07 Khodakovskiy: #Reuters Article Contains False Statements About Militia and #MH17 and Video Proves It
http://slavyangrad.org/2014/07/23/khodakovskiy-reuters-article-contains-false-statements-about-militia-and-mh17-and-video-proves-it/

25.07 The Video Report Deleted by the BBC - ENG SUBS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUvK5m2vxro

25.07 Hacked Email from U.S. Army Attache in Ukraine – For False Flags to occur so U.S. can take military action against Russia http://counterpsyops.com/2014/07/25/hacked-email-from-u-s-army-attache-in-ukraine-for-false-flags-to-occur-so-u-s-can-take-military-action-against-russia/

25.07 MH17 Verdict: Real Evidence Points to US-Kiev Cover-up of Failed False Flag
http://21stcenturywire.com/2014/07/25/mh17-verdict-real-evidence-points-to-us-kiev-cover-up-of-failed-false-flag-attack/

25.07 Russian Ministry of Defence: Still No Evidence of US Version of the #MH17 Crash
http://slavyangrad.org/2014/07/25/russian-ministry-of-defence-still-no-evidence-of-us-version-of-the-mh17-crash/

25.07 The Catastrophe of #MH17: #BBC in the Search of the “#BUK” – The Video Report Deleted by @BBChttp://slavyangrad.org/2014/07/25/video-report-deleted-by-bbc/

26.07 MH17 crash: leaked tape proven FAKE by audio analysis. (In Russian with English subtitles)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T34AB6CImTE

27.07 Extraordinary’ new clue found: MH17 fuselage part with 'MACHINE-GUN TYPE OF HOLES'
http://www.malaysia-chronicle.com/index.php?option=com_k2&view=item&id=328121:extraordinary%E2%80%99-new-clue-found-at-mh17-site-large-fuselage-part-with-machine-gun-type-of-holes&Itemid=2#.U-n8L45ZmRs#ixzz3AB2Nf1NL

27.07 Flight MH17 - What You're Not Being Told
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b67OGUsQC44

27.07 Flight #MH17: What You’re Not Being Told
http://slavyangrad.org/2014/07/27/flight-mh17-what-youre-not-being-told/

30.07 Revelations of German Pilot: Shocking Analysis of the “Shooting Down” of Malaysian MH17. “Aircraft Was Not Hit by a Missile”
http://www.globalresearch.ca/german-pilot-speaks-out-shocking-analysis-of-the-shooting-down-of-malaysian-mh17/5394111

30.07 #MH17 – Questions Continue To Be Raised – Ukraine’s Evidence Remains Fake
http://slavyangrad.org/2014/07/30/mh17-ukraines-fake/

30.07 Shocking Analysis of the ‘Shooting Down’ of Malaysian MH17
http://www.anderweltonline.com/wissenschaft-und-technik/luftfahrt-2014/shocking-analysis-of-the-shooting-down-of-malaysian-mh17/

31.07 MH17 and Su-25 | RussEurope
russeurope.hypotheses.org/2598 - View by Ixquick Proxy - Highlight
MH17 and Su-25. 31 juillet 2014. Par Jacques Sapir. Kindly translated by Anne- Marie de Grazia. One thesis presently gaining substance is that the Boeing of ...

31.07 “Support MH17 Truth”: OSCE Monitors Identify “Shrapnel and Machine Gun-Like Holes” indicating Shelling. No Evidence of a Missile Attack. Shot Down by a Military Aircraft?
http://www.globalresearch.ca/support-mh17-truth-osce-monitors-identify-shrapnel-like-holes-indicating-shelling-no-firm-evidence-of-a-missile-attack/5394324

31.07 “Support MH17 Truth”: OSCE Monitors Identify “Shrapnel and Machine Gun-Like Holes” indicating Shelling. No Evidence of a Missile Attack. Shot Down by a Military Aircraft?
http://www.globalresearch.ca/support-mh17-truth-osce-monitors-identify-shrapnel-like-holes-indicating-shelling-no-firm-evidence-of-a-missile-attack/5394324

01.08 Analysis of satellite imagery released on the Internet by the Security Service of Ukraine on July 30, 2014
http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.com.au/2014/08/analysis-of-satellite-imagery-released.html

02.08 Devils’ Dance on the Malaysian Plane Tragedy
http://www.globalresearch.ca/devils-dance-on-the-malaysian-plane-tragedy/5394621

06.08 MH17 Brought Down by Air-to-Air Missile, Finished Off by 30-mm Cannon, Experts Allege
http://en.ria.ru/military_news/20140806/191783761/MH17-Brought-Down-by-Air-to-Air-Missile-Finished-Off-by-30-mm.html

07.08 http://www.nst.com.my/node/20961
MH17: Pockmarks look like from very, very heavy machine gun fire, says first OSCE monitor on-scene
By Haris Hussain - 7 August 2014 @ 11:05 AM

12.08 http://acloserlookonsyria.shoutwiki.com/wiki/List_of_MH17_airframe_parts

12.08 http://acloserlookonsyria.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Talk:Crash_of_Malaysia_Airlines_flight_MH17/Forensics

12 08 Hackers Learned Who Shot Down Boeing In Ukraine.
http://beforeitsnews.com/global-unrest/2014/08/hackers-learned-who-shot-down-boeing-in-ukraine-2460300.html?currentSplittedPage=0

14.08 Investigators from four states sign MH17 Boeing crash inquiry agreement
http://allkyiv.in-site.in/2014/08/14/investigators-from-four-states-sign-mh17-boeing-crash-inquiry-agreement/

REPORT FROM THE (UKRANIAN NAZI) KYVIPOST:
Investigators from four states sign MH17 Boeing crash inquiry agreement
Investigative authorities of Ukraine, the Netherlands, Belgium and Australia have agreed on coordinated efforts in the inquiry into the Malaysian crash.
NOTICE THAT THIS "AGREEMENT" DOES NOT INVOLVE THE MALAYSIAN GOVERNMENT!!!
I WONDER WHAT THEY THINK ABOUT THIS??
The only result of this agreement is an OFFICIAL COVERUP!!

19.08 MH17 - We know with 99% certainty who shot down MH17 - Updated Aug 19
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czqmeMhWyFo&feature=youtu.be

21.08 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CR5HtzbMy-E&feature=youtu.be
Whistleblower: Ukrainian Troops Shot Down MH17
Award winning former Associated Press reporter Robert Parry has been told by an intelligence source that the United States is in possession of satellite imagery which shows that Ukrainian troops were responsible for the shoot down of Malaysian Airlines Flight 17



(2) A VERY THOUGHTFUL POST FROM TWITLONGER
I COULD NOT TRACE AGAIN

(THAT IS I CANNOT GIVE A LOCATION SITE)

The source of this post is HISTROIKA · @HISTROIKA, who tweets a lot in support of the "rebels" in the Ukraine.

Posted 28th Jul 2014 from TwitLonger

MH17; US narrative doesn't make sense, here's what the MSM are not telling you.

All the proof you need that what you are being told about MH17 is a total lie was kindly provided by the BBC, BBCRussia interviewed locals at the crash site who all saw Ukrainian fighter jets tailing the airliner, BBC promptly removed the footage when they realised it did not fit the controlled narrative.
PROOF U.S. is Lying. Censored BBC(Russia) Report into MH17 (Eng Subs)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVdwUdlswOY

Kiev has strenuously denied there were 2x Su25 in the area, but this has been disproved by the release of the Russian satellite images. Furthermore, the Ukraine/US version of events is totally implausible, the BUK missile system is not simply a standalone launcher on a truck, it can only be deployed as part of an integrated system comprising of a number of sophisticated radar units

It also require up to 20 specialised men with dedicated training to operate it, which the separatists simply do not have.

Though the Seps admit they have a BUK launcher which they captured from the Ukr Army but it was not operable as there were several parts damaged on it.
From the evidence it appears the Ukr Su25's were using MH17 as cover or hiding behind it, plus it was the fighters that stirred it over the conflict zone.

The images available on the internet show the damage across wing & angle in the fuselage is consistent with being shot at by air to air fire and not ground to air fire. If this is the case only Kiev could be responsible, and it appears were deliberately trying to frame the Rus Seps .

This is a 2011 test firing of 2 Buk missiles by Ukrainian air defence. youtu.be/O6-QjpC3m5U
Missiles take-off is at 01:00. No local people in town where allegedly fired from against MH-17 saw or heard this on July 17, 2014.
For a BUK to be fire & not be noticed by the local inhabitants is incomprehensible. Sound of a firing BUK missile can be heard within a radius of 10 km

On firing a Buk missile, the earth shakes for a radius of 2 km.
There is no video and no audio or other evidence that BUK missile was fired by militias from the position Kiev claims it was even though it is a populated town.
What was witnessed by several locals was 1-2 explosions in the air when MH-17 was attacked. But no one saw a missile trail from ground to the plane.

Also there is the Twitter feeds of the Spanish Air traffic controller Carlos who was hysterically tweeting that Su25 were tailing MH17 before it shot down & that a replacement Polish crew were replacing the existing controllers;



(3) A TRANSCRIPT OF TWITTER COMMENTS BY CARLOS

A SPANISH AIR TRAFFIC CONTROLLER SAID TO BE IN THE CONTROL TOWER IN UKRAINE WHEN THE PLANE WENT DOWN. (COPIES OF ALL INFO IN THE CONTROL TOWER WERE TAKEN BY THE UKRAINIAN OFFICIALS AND HAVE NOT BEEN RELEASED.)

http://slavyangrad.org/2014/07/18/spanish-air-controller-kiev-borispol-airport-ukraine-military-shot-down-boeing-mh17/

CHRONOLOGY OF @spainbuca’s TWITTER FEED
10:21 – 17 de jul. de 2014 Autoridades de kiev, intentan hacer que pueda parecer un ataque de los pro-rusos
“Kiev Authorities, trying to make looks like an attack by pro-Russian”
10:24 – 17 de jul. de 2014 Ojo! Que puede ser un derribo B777 Malaysia Airlines en ukraine, 280 pasajeros
“warning! It can be a downing, Malaysia Airlines B777 in ukraine, 280 passengers”
10:25 – 17 de jul. de 2014 Cuidado! Kiev tiene lo que buscaba
“Warning! Kiev have what they wanted”
10:25 – 17 de jul. de 2014 Vuelven a tomar la torre de control en Kiev
“[Miitary] has taken control of ATC in Kiev”
10:27 – 17 de jul. de 2014 El avión B777 de Malaysia Airlines desapareció del radar, no hubo comunicación de ninguna anomalia, confirmado
“The Malaysia Airlines B777 plane disappeared from the radar, there was no communication of any anomaly, confirmed”
10:30 – 17 de jul. de 2014 Avión derribado, derribados, derribado no accidente
“Plane shot down, shot down, shot down, no accident”
10:31 – 17 de jul. de 2014 Kiev, tiene lo que buscaba, lo dije en los primeros tw, kiev es responsable @ActualidadRT
“Kiev have what they wanted, I said in the first tw [Tweets], Kiev is responsible @ ActualidadRT”
10:35 – 17 de jul. de 2014 Un accidente muy normal no es, no están amenazando en la misma torre del aeropuerto de kiev,
“An accident that is not quite normal, they are threatening us in the same tower of Kiev airport”
10:35 – 17 de jul. de 2014 Nos van a quitar, nuestros tlf y demás de un momento a otro
“they will take from our phones and others stuff at any moment”
10:38 – 17 de jul. de 2014 Antes de que me quiten el tlf o me rompan la cabeza, derribado por Kiev
“Before They remove my phone or they break my head, shot down by Kiev”
11:12 – 17 de jul. de 2014 Nosotros tenemos la confirmación. Avión derribado, la autoridad de kiev, ya tiene la información, derribado, estamos tranquilos ahora
“We have confirmation. Plane downed, Kiev authorities already have the information, downed, we are calm now”
11:13 – 17 de jul. de 2014 Que hace personal extranjero con autoridades de kiev en la torre? Recopilando toda la información
“What are doing foreigners with kiev authorities in the tower? Gathering all the information”
11:15 – 17 de jul. de 2014 Cuando sea posible sigo escribiendo
“When possible I´ll keep writing”
11:48 – 17 de jul. de 2014 El avión B 777 voló escoltado por 2 cazas de ukraine hasta minutos antes, de desaparecer de los radares,
The B777 plane flew escorted by Ukraine jet fighter until 2 minutes before disappearing from the radar,
11:54 – 17 de jul. de 2014 Sí las autoridades de kiev, quieren decir la verdad, esta recogido 2 cazas volaron muy cerca minutos antes , no lo derribo un caza
“If kiev authorities want to tell the truth, It´s gathered, 2 jet fighters flew very close minutes before, wasn’t downed by a fighter”
12:00 – 17 de jul. de 2014 Nada más desaparecer el avión B 777 de Malaysia Airlines la autoridad militar de kiev nos informo del derribo, como lo sabían?
“Malaysia Airlines B777 plane just disappeared and Kiev military authority informed us of the downing, How they knew?”
12:00 – 17 de jul. de 2014 A los 7:00 minutos se notificó el derribo, más tarde se tomó la torre nuestra con personal extranjero q siguen aquí
“7:00 minutes after [plane dissapeared], the downing was notified, later our tower was taken with foreigner staff, they still here ”
12:01 – 17 de jul. de 2014 En los radares esta todo recogido, para los incrédulos, derribado por kiev, aquí lo sabemos y control aéreo militar también
“all this is gathered in radars, to the unbelieving, shot down by kiev, here we know it and military air traffic control also”
13:15 – 17 de jul. de 2014 Aquí los mandos militares manejan y admiten que militares a otras órdenes, pudieron ser, pero no, los pro-rusos
“Here the military commanders manage and support it could be military following other orders , but no, the pro-Russian”
13:29 – 17 de jul. de 2014 El ministro del interior si conocía que, hacían los cazas en la zona, el ministro de defensa no, .
“Interior Minister knew what the fighters were doing in the area, the defense minister didn’t.”
13:31 – 17 de jul. de 2014 Militares confirman que fue ukraine, pero se sigue sin saber de donde vino la orden
“Military confirm It was Ukraine, but still does not know where the order came from”
13:36 – 17 de jul. de 2014 Hace dias lo dije aquí, militares de kiev querían alzarse contra el actual presidente, esto puede ser una forma, a las órdenes de timoshenko
“Days ago I said here, kiev military wanted to rise against the current president, this may be a way, ordered by timoshenko [following timishenko orders]”
13:38 – 17 de jul. de 2014 Los cazas volaron cerca del 777, hasta 3 minutos antes de desaparecer de los radares, solo 3 minutos
“The fighters flew close to 777, up to 3 minutes before disappearing from the radar, just 3 minutes”
13:43 – 17 de jul. de 2014 Se cierra el espacio aéreo
“Airspace closed”
13:45 – 17 de jul. de 2014 Se cierra el espacio aéreo, por miedo a más derribos
“Airspace is closed, more downings feared”
15:17 – 17 de jul. de 2014 Control militar entrega ahora mismo de forma oficial que el avión fue derribado por misil
“military control now officially [say] the plane was shot down by missile”
15:23 – 17 de jul. de 2014 El informe oficial firmado por las autoridades militares de control de kiev ya lo tiene el gobierno,,,, , derribado
“Government has the official report signed by the control military authorities in Kiev,,,, [plane] shot down”
15:26 – 17 de jul. de 2014 En el informe se indica de donde abría salido el misil, y se especifica que no proviene de las autodefensa en las zonas rebeldes
“The report indicates where the missile had come out [from], and specified is not from the selfdefence in rebel areas”
15:34 – 17 de jul. de 2014Los radares militares si recogieron los datos del misil lanzado al avión, los radares civiles no
“Military radar collected data from missile fired to the plane, civilian radars didn’t”
15:36 – 17 de jul. de 2014 Los altos mandos militares no ordenaron el lanzamiento del misil, ,,alguien se le fue la mano en nombre de ukraine
“military high command did not gave the order to fire the missile, someone screw it ine the name of ukraine”
15:38 – 17 de jul. de 2014 Para el que no lo sepa, digamos así, hay militares a las órdenes del ministro de defensa y militares a las órdenes del ministro del interior
“For those who do not know, Let’s say, there are military under the orders of the defense minister and military under the orders of Interior Minister”
15:38 – 17 de jul. de 2014 Los militares a las órdenes del ministro del interior conocían en cada momento lo que sucedió, .
“The military under the orders of Interior Minister knew what happened all the time .”
16:06 – 17 de jul. de 2014 Mandos militares aquí (ATC) torre de control, confirman que el misil es del ejercito de ukraine,
“Military commanders here (ATC) control tower, confirm that the missile is from the ukranian army,”
16:07 – 17 de jul. de 2014 Mandos militares que si lo sabían y otros mandos que no,
“military commanders that knew it and others didn´t ,”
16:08 – 17 de jul. de 2014 290 personas inocentes muertas, . Por una guerra inútil, donde el patriotismo se compra con dinero
“290 dead innocent people. What a useless war, where patriotism is bought with money”
16:09 – 17 de jul. de 2014 La forma de tomar la torre de control minutos después sabiendo todo los detalles, rápido nos hizo pensar que habían sido ellos
“Thw way the control tower was taken minutes after & knowing all the details, made us think that they [made it]”
16:10 – 17 de jul. de 2014 La cara de los militares que llegaron más tarde diciendo pero que habéis echo, no dejo dudas
“The face of the soldiers who came later saying [what you just did], no chance for doubts”
16:12 – 17 de jul. de 2014 Es tal la decadencia que los militares acompañados de extranjeros que llegaron primero nos llegaron a pedir que dijéramos su versión
“Such is the decline that military who came first accompanied by foreigners came to us asking us to tell their version”
16:13 – 17 de jul. de 2014 Nuestra respuesta, fue, estos radares no recogen el lanzamiento de misiles, los militares si, ya no quedaban dudas
“Our response was, these radars do not collect the launching of missiles, the military ones does, there were no doubts”




(4) SOME OTHER POSTS WHICH ARE NOT (TO ME) OF GREAT VALUE

18.07 Downing Of Flight MH 17: False Flag Operation To Blame Russia?
http://stateofthenation2012.com/?p=6355

18.07 Who has shot down the Malaysian jet over Ukraine?
http://orientalreview.org/2014/07/18/who-shot-down-the-malaysian-jet-over-ukraine/

18.07 Questions over why Malaysian plane flew over Ukrainian war zone
http://themillenniumreport.com/2014/07/943/

19.07 Was Ukraine’s Ministry of Interior behind the Downing of Malaysian Airlines MH17? By Prof Michel Chossudovsky
http://themillenniumreport.com/2014/07/kiev-behind-malaysian-flight-shoot-down/

22.07 Malaysian Airlines MH17 Was Ordered to Fly over the East Ukraine War Zone
Malaysian Airlines Confirms that it was Instructed to Fly MH17 at Lower Altitude over East Ukraine By Prof Michel Chossudovsky
http://themillenniumreport.com/2014/07/malaysian-airlines-mh17-was-ordered-to-fly-over-the-east-ukraine-warzone/

22.07 Video Footage Of MH17 Shoot Down Reveals Critical Information
http://themillenniumreport.com/2014/07/radar-signatures-and-satellite-imagery-of-mh17-shoot-down-reveals-critical-information/

21.07 MH-17 and NATO Exercise “Breeze 2014″
http://themillenniumreport.com/2014/07/mh-17-and-nato-excercise-breeze-2014%E2%80%B3/
Read more: http://www.storyleak.com/evidence-conclusive-ukraine-military-shot-down-mh17-in-false-flag-operation/#ixzz39QV2HYft

22.07 Ukrainian Su-25 fighter detected in close approach to MH17 before crash – Moscow
http://themillenniumreport.com/2014/07/ukrainian-su-25-fighter-detected-in-close-approach-to-mh17-before-crash-moscow/

25.07 Nine EU countries to block economic sanctions against Russia &
http://themillenniumreport.com/2014/07/nine-eu-countries-to-block-economic-sanctions-against-russia/

27.07 George W. Bush, Tony Blair found guilty of war crimes … in Malaysia;
http://themillenniumreport.com/2014/07/first-george-w-bush-tony-blair-found-guilty-of-war-crimes-in-malaysia-then-malaysia-airliner-missile-strike-was-it-mh-17-or-mh-370/

27.07 Malaysia Airliner Missile Strike(s): Was it MH-17 or MH-370?
http://themillenniumreport.com/2014/07/first-george-w-bush-tony-blair-found-guilty-of-war-crimes-in-malaysia-then-malaysia-airliner-missile-strike-was-it-mh-17-or-mh-370/

03.08 MH17 HOAX: Crash Scene Evidence Reveals No Boeing-777 Engine
http://themillenniumreport.com/2014/08/mh17-hoax-crash-scene-evidence-reveals-no-boeing-777-engine/

03.08 Evidence Conclusive: Ukraine Military Shot Down MH17 In False Flag Operation
http://www.storyleak.com/evidence-conclusive-ukraine-military-shot-down-mh17-in-false-flag-operation/

Read more: http://www.storyleak.com/evidence-conclusive-ukraine-military-shot-down-mh17-in-false-flag-operation/#ixzz39QkP6pmf
Tags: archive, mh-17, usa vs russia/china
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